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night vision radio got a couple of just

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Barnett and you'll see my picture up

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there I think there's a couple of Renee

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Barnett's but I'm the one in Los Angeles

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and I do mention on the page night

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vision radio and also you know send me a

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you and also I wanted to invite you to

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if you do connect with me there or by

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love to hear your guest suggestions or

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to hear on this show anything that's

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within our scope here at night vision

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to get audience feedback and so I'd like

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to hear from all you guys also if you

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articles there and also of course

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information on upcoming shows on night

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vision in right here at inception radio

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network com so without further ado when

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I talk about the show tonight you know I

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don't know if you were listening last

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week but if you were we had the good

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Reverend Michael Carter on and he was

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talking about his et experiences which

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he viewed in its very favorable and very

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positive and I guess he would have what

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contactee experience as opposed to the

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traditional alien abduction story now so

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last week we heard about the positive

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aspects of his experiences and his

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tonight we're going to flip the script

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just a bit because I did hear from

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people that say you know I've had my 80

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experiences and they weren't at all I

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didn't feel like they were positive at

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all they were scary sometimes they were

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painful sometimes they were you know

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psychologically disturbing and so I

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experiences we ought to explore that

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for a person who had had a lot of those

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types of alien abduction experiences and

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encounter research organization and

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asked her if she could recommend someone

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recommended my guest tonight and I want

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to tell you a little bit about my guest

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she's a forensic counselor she's really

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a renaissance woman that's what I would

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counselor she's an artist she's a writer

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can't leave out a lifelong alien

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abductee so tonight I'd like to welcome

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Charlie mcclain to McCain to the show

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excuse me I don't want to mispronounce

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your name I already almost mispronounced

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your first name earlier today huh no

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one thing radio host radio host that was

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paranormal and sacred and anyway

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story because there's so much there that

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you don't mind you you said that you

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your experiences as far as you can

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recall or remember begin when you were

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high i already had like night terrors

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worried little kid and had a lot of

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responsibility exit care of the whole

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family including my sister that I was

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the oldest and I take my job pretty

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of investigator and I also did a lot of

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hick I don't know if anybody knows where

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that terribly far from me but you know

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pacoima I think maybe you know least 20

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world and and it's not nearly as scary

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of places it used to be but I remember a

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of gang activity going on over there in

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a lot of violence domestic violence and

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and things like that which I know that

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you know you witnessed a lot of that

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just looking out the window of the house

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there and they do have issues with with

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those kinds of domestic violence and

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some alcohol abuse in your home which

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here it's the reason why you sort of

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ended up having to take responsibility

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for your younger siblings that's it

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that's true yeah I did and uh I love

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their I remember loving them so much I

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remember when my first sister was born

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couple months younger than me I do

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remember when she was born in how much I

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loved her so I actually took them all

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under my wing immediately you know

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though I was you know we're only a year

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apart basically yeah but um my mother

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really loved them so much so I was

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always on the lookout there was only so

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much danger especially in the projects

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there was a lot of things going on and

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every kind of thing you can imagine it

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felt like a little tiny world there and

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me but they just have to learn how to

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stare the way and you never walk

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straight across anywhere he always kind

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of walk around the building to look

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first before you know well yeah you had

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all this stuff going on just in your

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everyday life a lot of responsibility

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and I would imagine some trauma if there

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was some violence going on around you

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and then on top of this you started

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being aware of having these experiences

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which i think you said began as you

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would be levitated and taken up a tunnel

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a metal tunnel into around hedonism that

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yes I proceeded as a metal tunnel and I

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would be sucked straight up off my bed

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so straight up this middle tunnel I

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thought it was a great tunnel I never

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hit the sides or anything but to me it

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looked metal and then into round middle

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room it had no furniture except for some

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kind of console in the middle of it but

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then there was around the circular and

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around the whole room was like a ledge

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where you can sit was just like an

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alleged was enough furniture anything

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like a plant like a man like a bench

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that when we're going to like a [\h__\h]

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but it came right out of the wall and

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maybe like molded right yeah and that's

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where it was and they look to me like

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you know dome-shaped trash cans yes it

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fit silver with big black eyes and just

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a little tiny foot for a mouth on there

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about my height but i found an extremely

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horrifying yeah you're sounded that that

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the beings themselves seem to be made of

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metal died five

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made a metal I thought everything was

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made out of the same thing but they look

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like grey steel metal to me but that's

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as a child that's what I thought do you

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think that that was them or do you think

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that they were wearing some sort of

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protective gear you know I don't know I

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knew that they were the same sizes I

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same height but they were around kind of

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barely figured you know I can't remember

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arms and legs and legs arms are soaked

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in but it kind of looked like a bullet

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to me no they were shaped like that but

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then i go to mediately crazy and terror

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and you know so after that they would

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try to hold me down so I have a like a

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lot of weird phobias claustrophobia I

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can't stand to be held down you know

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stuff like that today I have a thing

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called Sam hmm now when you were

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levitated into this room and I know you

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know it was terrifying because you know

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obviously you're probably trying to

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figure out what the heck's going on and

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what are these creatures or that you

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know this seems to be beings and but

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what did they do then I know there was a

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point where you would just pass out but

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what would be like what what you could

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remember before passing out yeah i was

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thinking about that as our thinking

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about the show and I remember something

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that's so desperate I remember laying

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there and thinking this is so painful

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that I think you know what I want to

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leave my body I remember thinking that

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and it was really disturbing to remember

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this that whatever was happening was

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extremely painful to me plus I couldn't

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stand them and plus it was against my

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will I was struggling all the time you

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know I and still you know you know for

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my whole life just fighting just I feel

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like they're kidnappers they come

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tonight or sometimes in the day and they

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just take you and they do what you want

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on you know how to tell over them and I

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don't

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like a peace love feeling about them I

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feel like they they are taking all to

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what you feel what you think you know

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that you may think you're looking at for

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one thing that you're actually looking

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at something else and they you know I've

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had many abductions with other people

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you know if I'm not the only one and

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we're seeing the same thing yeah that's

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what's really interesting is you know

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because you know you could say oh it was

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a loose nation it was a dream it was

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this it was that but if someone else is

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able to corroborate things independently

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then obviously it was a real experience

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and I know you had some experiences I

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know there was an experience where you

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saw your father on the craft and there

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yeah that hurt because look at this is

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what effort it's because you know I was

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there and I was being abducted and bad

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things were happening to me I don't

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remember things happening to my sisters

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and they've never talked to me about

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that we have had problems with our

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clothes being inside out and coming back

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do know that so we thought we are being

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molested for all the time and we would

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talk about it think what happened up you

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know what I we come back to building

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opposite direction that we were in

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clothes inside out you know we had

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problems so we thought we were being

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abducted in other words you know so

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we're confused but one time I was there

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and I turn around because you know have

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an immediate fighter flight when they

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took me up there it's his round ship

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immediately I run around so I noticed

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quite an irrational most of time but I

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look turn around and it was my dad

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sitting on the ledge Mike remember what

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he's wearing and he had had a sit-down

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handers oh you know like a look of

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being extremely upset and not wanting to

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look around and I looked at him and I

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thought oh my god dad my father what

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else do I have the theme i had was the

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lion you know he was everything and the

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king and then looking at sitting there

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he looked very frightened I couldn't see

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his face but wait is holding his

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covering his face and the other hand in

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this air he was scared I know I think we

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know when we're children a lot of times

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you know her dad seems larger than life

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and like he could do anything and take

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care of any situation and protect us in

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any way and then when you see a your dad

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in a really vulnerable yeah stance it's

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like that is scary because you're

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thinking oh my god if he's scared you

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know then I should be terrified yes

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that's exactly what oh yeah now when you

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said that you know you would become so

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frightened that you would either pass

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out or maybe sort of almost dissociate

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because you said you want to just get

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out of there but and you said that you

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would remember that you started to feel

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some pain do you remember where that

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painting on your body was and in what

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you think it might have been coming from

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well it was a long lines of I have a

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very hard time with it so I don't have I

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can't tell you what objects they had or

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what they were doing but they were doing

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things to me biologically and physically

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and they had we had done that too and

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but I don't see I've only seen an

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instrument of an adult when I thought I

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saw along like a pointer with a black

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pointer but it was where was in the

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zapper like it could zap you with a

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point of this thing it was really sharp

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but that's as an adult as a kid I

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couldn't stand looking at it hmm yeah

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now you know I've got people in a chat

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room you know asking questions this one

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I got a couple but I just got one from

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neutron in the chat room and he says do

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you ever remember seeing your body from

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above during the abduction experience

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like you know an out-of-body experience

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well that's a good question um no but I

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know people that have but i have had now

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in the mystical side of faith I've had

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many religious experience since I was a

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kid too so I would have even as as

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recent as a month ago at a body

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experience we're more like i neva had

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life after death experience will stretch

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out west so i have done that but that

347
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was more religious experiences or birth

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certif adidas panic many times do you

349
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think there could have been a connection

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with all these ideas and i know i don't

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put her I know I don't I Renee I really

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do understand that part of it because I

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don't put them together I put them like

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in spite of knowing me in spite of what

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kinda bad things that happening now I

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don't think they can't be separatist

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it's because they're after different

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people for a reason and I think some

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people have psychic i have like a

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natural psychic gifts and part of it is

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like remote viewing and I actually can

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go places where people need me I can go

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and be there people have seen you there

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um you know I just there doesn't matter

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how far they're away they are I can

366
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still help you know a sister some very

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strange things that happen now you know

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I was thinking about that earlier today

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too because I know you do have that

370
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background in those abilities and I was

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also wondering if that has something to

372
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do with your connection to the ETS okay

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we know what I think that um this is

374
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what I think

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they want and they had my mother saw

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some UFOs flying in formation she was in

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upstate New York and park so she'd be

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into kid seat in a park and she saw she

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said oh between 1015 maybe white uh jet

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like but their UFO shows she found

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flying in formation and of course I was

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born you know when they were going oh I

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was born in July 1352 when they were

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actually flying over the White House by

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men and so it's kind of strange that

386
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I've always been aware of this stuff

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around you know so but there's a lot of

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coincidences you know that are even

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cropping up to this day about the full

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thing but I think for me I think they

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are taking DNA I'd be pregnant others

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will I feel okay so I I I know I've been

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pregnant many times and then the

394
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pregnancy disappears and stuff like that

395
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then that happened and me and another

396
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man Jesse long we've discussed it that

397
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we have many babies I call it babies in

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space so because if I goodbye I know

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Jesse long yeah just long so oh my gosh

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meaning that we have discussed it

401
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because we for many many many years I'm

402
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telling you me until recently Iowa's

403
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morning my baby has whatever children

404
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they took or age they cook they showed

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me the kids once a while if I know I

406
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have many of the many Jesse says I think

407
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35 he has 35 I have probably 250 that's

408
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how council outlandish I know everybody

409
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lavish yourself but that's what my

410
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calculation is and me and somebody else

411
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figured out like if a woman isn't in her

412
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birthing stage I could easily be

413
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pregnant so many times in my lifetime

414
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right or are you really pregnant Ordaz

415
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they just take the egg a pregnant hmm

416
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interesting interesting

417
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out there was something i don't want to

418
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miss this question Oh bill in New York

419
00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:15,520
says you know have you ever had hypnotic

420
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regression therapy if you did you see

421
00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:23,290
tried but I'm i just used it for a

422
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relaxation because i appear not to be

423
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suggestible i don't know what that means

424
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:32,290
but i don't i don't go under so oh i

425
00:21:39,150 --> 00:21:37,090
wanted i want to i show up but i've done

426
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:39,160
it and yes I don't do it I'm not gonna

427
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pretend something is not you know I've

428
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said a because there's many great great

429
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people out there and I think that it

430
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:51,400
really really works you know for me I

431
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don't do it doesn't do anything and I'm

432
00:22:00,810 --> 00:21:57,760
not blocking I feel very comfortable you

433
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:00,820
know I'm just not being I'm not regress

434
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:04,570
anywhere so here I'm going to try again

435
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I think I really think people should i

436
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:11,650
think really people should to do

437
00:22:18,450 --> 00:22:13,840
initially go to compare apini regression

438
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:18,460
the what I did was a this is how i met

439
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:20,320
you launch the SS cyril through

440
00:22:28,620 --> 00:22:24,490
international is that I me and my best

441
00:22:31,620 --> 00:22:28,630
friend who now there's a she work for

442
00:22:33,210 --> 00:22:31,630
satellite was to history by NASA on how

443
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:33,220
we ended up the only me and believed in

444
00:22:39,180 --> 00:22:37,330
France for 40 years off but we were

445
00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:39,190
actually going down the freeway at four

446
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or five towards long beach and I know if

447
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:45,550
you know that area and we saw UFO easter

448
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:49,570
also UFO and then after that we saw it

449
00:22:54,090 --> 00:22:52,240
we realized we've been having abductions

450
00:22:56,190 --> 00:22:54,100
the whole time because we would we

451
00:22:59,490 --> 00:22:56,200
blamed it on tequila we did because we

452
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were out partying in the 80s or 70 and

453
00:23:02,910 --> 00:23:01,210
80 and you have platform shoes and be

454
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here we go out fine but there always

455
00:23:07,950 --> 00:23:05,350
something odd what happened to us you

456
00:23:11,490 --> 00:23:07,960
know either psychic phenomena hi how

457
00:23:13,049 --> 00:23:11,500
strange odd things here I mean we

458
00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:13,059
wrapping all times but we always said

459
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:15,400
well you know we talked about it but

460
00:23:18,659 --> 00:23:18,010
after we saw the UFO we realized that we

461
00:23:20,430 --> 00:23:18,669
had

462
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been abducted together the whole time

463
00:23:30,930 --> 00:23:24,970
and that was the strange of thing that

464
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was happening yeah yeah now when you

465
00:23:36,629 --> 00:23:33,059
know we've got a lot of interest from

466
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the chat room and listeners about these

467
00:23:44,669 --> 00:23:40,049
babies here great about the babies and

468
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and they were wondering whether or not

469
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,970
you've ever been shown these these

470
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babies or had any interaction with the

471
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babies yes um yes i have another shown

472
00:24:02,669 --> 00:23:59,769
many of them but some stick out in my

473
00:24:06,479 --> 00:24:02,679
mind that you know you know together

474
00:24:10,169 --> 00:24:06,489
realizes um these beings or whatever

475
00:24:12,299 --> 00:24:10,179
they are are pretty phenomenal at doing

476
00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:12,309
you know getting you to do what they

477
00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:14,590
want to do and stuff like that meaning

478
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:17,470
people will say I saw a gray or I saw

479
00:24:21,149 --> 00:24:19,570
Nordic or I saw you know and I don't

480
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:21,159
kind of agree with it because to me I

481
00:24:25,919 --> 00:24:23,440
saw debut blond hair and blue eyes it

482
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:25,929
was my baby you know I didn't look odd

483
00:24:30,659 --> 00:24:28,690
to me look like a little boy so but they

484
00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:30,669
would bring me to the little boy or vice

485
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:34,480
versa and I can remember one time he had

486
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:36,609
his books with them and they said he was

487
00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:39,210
having a hard time adjusting to them and

488
00:24:44,930 --> 00:24:42,070
so I went to I was with him and I was

489
00:24:49,739 --> 00:24:44,940
sitting with him and we were talking and

490
00:24:51,509 --> 00:24:49,749
he was a very good person and I could

491
00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:51,519
tell he was really intelligent and he

492
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:53,950
really wanted to do his best efforts for

493
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them for you know they were raising them

494
00:24:59,489 --> 00:24:58,299
and he wanted to do the best he could

495
00:25:02,159 --> 00:24:59,499
it's not like you wanted to come back

496
00:25:04,619 --> 00:25:02,169
with me you know he just wanted to be a

497
00:25:06,239 --> 00:25:04,629
better whoever he was and he was going

498
00:25:09,570 --> 00:25:06,249
to do that but he was at a hard time

499
00:25:12,269 --> 00:25:09,580
relating to them so they now have very

500
00:25:15,299 --> 00:25:12,279
many emotions of heat sucks that's it

501
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:15,309
because they're very intellectual and

502
00:25:23,549 --> 00:25:20,799
also to let telepathic now you you said

503
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:23,559
you know when you saw one of the one of

504
00:25:29,369 --> 00:25:25,330
these children that has been that had

505
00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:29,379
been presented to you as yours did you

506
00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:30,849
say that it looked just like a little

507
00:25:35,909 --> 00:25:32,710
boy look a little

508
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:35,919
onto his boy very good looking very

509
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:39,760
handsome that I saw one like I seen a

510
00:25:46,649 --> 00:25:43,570
lot of babies and one time though it was

511
00:25:49,409 --> 00:25:46,659
a baby it looked like a almost like a

512
00:25:52,260 --> 00:25:49,419
rubber dolly you know the other one of

513
00:25:55,409 --> 00:25:52,270
the rubber dollies are the rubbery ones

514
00:25:58,700 --> 00:25:55,419
yeah I didn't I was kind of worried and

515
00:26:00,930 --> 00:25:58,710
I for a little bit big but not like a

516
00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:00,940
portrayed there was a little bit bigger

517
00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:04,000
eyes but I went up for they handed them

518
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:07,360
out to me and I put my hands on this

519
00:26:14,490 --> 00:26:11,679
baby and this baby was afraid of me and

520
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:14,500
it twisted awake a mint a little insert

521
00:26:20,010 --> 00:26:16,960
with muscles and strong into a

522
00:26:22,220 --> 00:26:20,020
stimulation it freaked me out I mean

523
00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:22,230
that still gives me the willies Tuesday

524
00:26:27,779 --> 00:26:25,270
so you know I had a horrible four or

525
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:27,789
five reaction but you know then

526
00:26:32,130 --> 00:26:29,679
something happened recently they show me

527
00:26:35,549 --> 00:26:32,140
they kicked me to this house so but so

528
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:35,559
odd is that I have a house that I live

529
00:26:40,769 --> 00:26:38,080
in another house okay in my best friend

530
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:40,779
just started discussing there when we

531
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:43,210
cut they come to see me when my best

532
00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:45,370
friend come to see me I'm at a different

533
00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:48,580
house you know so I think that we're

534
00:26:51,779 --> 00:26:49,929
being brought to another house and I

535
00:26:53,970 --> 00:26:51,789
recognize it as my house and sort of G

536
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:53,980
so it's weird but they had mode of my

537
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:56,080
son's there and he was tall thin with

538
00:27:01,769 --> 00:27:00,159
dark hair and I looked at him and I just

539
00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:01,779
reject and I'm i said what does he need

540
00:27:07,380 --> 00:27:05,470
me for and i forgot i thought they were

541
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:07,390
done with me because he's I'm older now

542
00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:10,090
anything right I don't have to use any

543
00:27:14,340 --> 00:27:11,950
more I thought they were done with me so

544
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:14,350
I kind of I'm having his experiences

545
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:16,450
like i compartmentalize it you know i

546
00:27:21,090 --> 00:27:18,850
mean yeah i don't think you like what

547
00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:21,100
didn't you need for I feel so bad when I

548
00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:24,460
woke up for the look on his face mm I

549
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:26,350
need a kid with mine you know he's

550
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:29,440
really tall dark to care I knew he was

551
00:27:33,299 --> 00:27:30,850
mine but I thought what do you need me

552
00:27:35,850 --> 00:27:33,309
for you already grown up in about 24 I

553
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:35,860
didn't think I shall regret when I woke

554
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:38,770
up son does not do that anymore no no

555
00:27:42,529 --> 00:27:40,240
because this is like living two

556
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:42,539
different lives it's very odd to me that

557
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:45,460
is that that's really really strange

558
00:27:49,769 --> 00:27:46,090
we're

559
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:49,779
have to go to break in just a quick

560
00:27:57,930 --> 00:27:53,289
minute here and when we come back I'd

561
00:28:01,799 --> 00:27:57,940
like to find out if you know how this

562
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:01,809
impregnation process went and you know

563
00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:03,520
it seems like there you said you had a

564
00:28:10,260 --> 00:28:06,809
little towhead boy and then you have a

565
00:28:13,549 --> 00:28:10,270
dark-haired son so it sounds to me like

566
00:28:16,620 --> 00:28:13,559
you know they may be were from different

567
00:28:18,510 --> 00:28:16,630
alien fathers if that's the case but

568
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:18,520
we'll we'll talk about that when I'm

569
00:28:23,370 --> 00:28:21,760
baby mama yeah you're the baby mama so

570
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:23,380
we're going to talk about the debate

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00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:26,110
amanha when we get back from this breaks

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00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:32,250
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633
00:32:40,010 --> 00:32:37,650
Charlene McCain about her alien

634
00:32:44,710 --> 00:32:40,020
abduction experiences which she has been

635
00:32:47,540 --> 00:32:44,720
having throughout her life about

636
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:47,550
reproducing alien babies or I guess they

637
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:51,090
would be hybrid children she says many

638
00:32:56,990 --> 00:32:54,330
many and she suspects up to even 250

639
00:33:00,980 --> 00:32:57,000
that she might have out there in outer

640
00:33:02,510 --> 00:33:00,990
space and sure I was asking you before

641
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:02,520
the breaker I brought up before the

642
00:33:06,530 --> 00:33:04,130
break you know that these children

643
00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:06,540
didn't all seem to look exactly alike

644
00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:08,430
you know a lot of times when you see

645
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:13,320
pictures of ETS or even ET babies it

646
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:14,880
seems like they're all sort of cookie

647
00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:17,090
cutter like they all look exactly alike

648
00:33:22,850 --> 00:33:21,150
but you know clearly you clearly had you

649
00:33:25,340 --> 00:33:22,860
know some different looking children

650
00:33:29,690 --> 00:33:25,350
which makes me think maybe there was

651
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:29,700
different dads now did you and and we

652
00:33:35,570 --> 00:33:32,970
were also talking about you know the

653
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:35,580
pregnancies and were you really pregnant

654
00:33:40,820 --> 00:33:38,130
or were they just harvesting eggs from

655
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:40,830
you and you said no I was pregnant so do

656
00:33:45,140 --> 00:33:42,960
you remember anything about the process

657
00:33:50,210 --> 00:33:45,150
and did it happen in a natural way or

658
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:50,220
was it like an artificial insemination I

659
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:54,330
think uh yeah t three ways far away and

660
00:34:03,310 --> 00:33:57,450
they probably did harvest eggs and

661
00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:03,320
sometimes there were sex involved and I

662
00:34:09,350 --> 00:34:07,200
really don't like the awareness now that

663
00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:09,360
i have a non baby mama I just really

664
00:34:17,210 --> 00:34:15,480
have said anything it's just it's a

665
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:17,220
shock me but it's true they take people

666
00:34:25,550 --> 00:34:22,320
for a certain reason and sometimes they

667
00:34:28,250 --> 00:34:25,560
have like a high just don't want my

668
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:28,260
children I have grown children and also

669
00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:31,440
almost grown grandchildren but you know

670
00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:34,919
there is a sexual component sometimes we

671
00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:35,700
all

672
00:34:40,940 --> 00:34:39,480
pollito you in put it I was in say it

673
00:34:43,399 --> 00:34:40,950
was interesting that you should say that

674
00:34:45,319 --> 00:34:43,409
because uh also in the chat room I

675
00:34:47,470 --> 00:34:45,329
didn't even read the question before I

676
00:34:50,780 --> 00:34:47,480
just asked you what I just asked you but

677
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:50,790
analog in the in the chat room was also

678
00:34:55,579 --> 00:34:53,280
asking that question about the process

679
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:55,589
and said you know feel pardon the

680
00:35:04,780 --> 00:34:57,690
question do you ever remember anything

681
00:35:06,829 --> 00:35:04,790
pleasurable about it yes well you know

682
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:06,839
since they're doing in many different

683
00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:08,970
ways and what's a while I guess they

684
00:35:14,839 --> 00:35:11,369
want to do it naturally but it would be

685
00:35:17,180 --> 00:35:14,849
what I would proceed a human you know

686
00:35:19,579 --> 00:35:17,190
and that's what the dream I would be in

687
00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:19,589
a dream and I would proceed in a human

688
00:35:27,859 --> 00:35:24,660
but something happened with me and a

689
00:35:32,349 --> 00:35:27,869
couple members of zero that we start

690
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:32,359
having very intense erotic dreams and I

691
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:35,010
finally got so fed up with this whole

692
00:35:40,069 --> 00:35:37,170
for their kids at throwing different

693
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:40,079
scenarios at me and us doesn't like

694
00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:41,910
those three of the seven st. odds were

695
00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:45,540
talking about it and so was it wasn't my

696
00:35:49,309 --> 00:35:47,849
cup of tea i would say that i would say

697
00:35:52,130 --> 00:35:49,319
that even during the dream i think you

698
00:35:54,589 --> 00:35:52,140
know this isn't my preference so I'm

699
00:35:56,569 --> 00:35:54,599
saying to you now know and then they

700
00:35:59,569 --> 00:35:56,579
would kind of go into shock and stop

701
00:36:01,910 --> 00:35:59,579
whatever they're doing and then it would

702
00:36:04,970 --> 00:36:01,920
be very like erotic and stuff like that

703
00:36:07,790 --> 00:36:04,980
I actually had to ask God to intervene

704
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:07,800
and that's what I did I started saying

705
00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:09,930
my prayers and after the Blessed Mother

706
00:36:14,750 --> 00:36:11,780
to health and stop it and it did stop

707
00:36:16,130 --> 00:36:14,760
because I felt like I was being dragged

708
00:36:18,319 --> 00:36:16,140
somewhere I didn't want to go because

709
00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:18,329
the scenarios were not work right there

710
00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:23,190
weren't nice I like it yeah you said

711
00:36:29,089 --> 00:36:26,460
they look like men you know like human

712
00:36:32,569 --> 00:36:29,099
men to you do you feel like that was

713
00:36:34,309 --> 00:36:32,579
sort of like just a screen maybe I knew

714
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:34,319
it was a screening at the time because

715
00:36:42,020 --> 00:36:37,170
they would smell funny mmm it would like

716
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:42,030
like at times like how to describe you

717
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:43,920
really been a bus station a lot of buses

718
00:36:48,770 --> 00:36:45,359
are taken off and I have all that

719
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:48,780
exhaust smell mm-hmm that wet cardboard

720
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:49,890
and

721
00:36:54,110 --> 00:36:52,530
you know that's what kind of cute me to

722
00:36:57,050 --> 00:36:54,120
this isn't it what's really what I

723
00:37:00,320 --> 00:36:57,060
really think it is no no it's like

724
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:00,330
you're always in a state of this real or

725
00:37:05,650 --> 00:37:03,030
memorex you know if I have you know

726
00:37:09,170 --> 00:37:05,660
treat disorders insulted because of us

727
00:37:11,060 --> 00:37:09,180
you know I I am like diligent and I

728
00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:11,070
don't like it because I never sleep more

729
00:37:15,650 --> 00:37:13,710
than two hours in a row you know and

730
00:37:18,830 --> 00:37:15,660
it's that's really hard on me today

731
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:18,840
because there's still stuff going on but

732
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:22,010
for different reasons I guess yeah yeah

733
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:28,560
now so in do you did you ever see what

734
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:32,130
these guys actually look like that you

735
00:37:37,310 --> 00:37:34,290
know ultimately became the fathers of

736
00:37:39,620 --> 00:37:37,320
your children it for this this I cannot

737
00:37:43,610 --> 00:37:39,630
say that I've seen what they look like

738
00:37:48,050 --> 00:37:43,620
but I've seen many different beings at

739
00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:48,060
one time I've thought I was looking at a

740
00:37:55,610 --> 00:37:54,060
Gandhi one time so they all Gandhi was

741
00:37:58,220 --> 00:37:55,620
like a skinny little guy right in a

742
00:37:59,690 --> 00:37:58,230
little brown guy yeah like you made out

743
00:38:02,660 --> 00:37:59,700
of leather and I was remember i'm

744
00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:02,670
staring at him and he's coming towards

745
00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:04,470
me so that's when I panic because they

746
00:38:09,140 --> 00:38:07,020
walk funny there's something about their

747
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:09,150
mannerisms that are so odd to me to it

748
00:38:13,940 --> 00:38:11,370
it crawls and like the back of your mind

749
00:38:15,260 --> 00:38:13,950
almost like watching a spider you know

750
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:15,270
the other thing you look at something

751
00:38:19,250 --> 00:38:16,710
all the friend you kind of slipped and

752
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:19,260
that I do a lot of panicking because

753
00:38:25,010 --> 00:38:23,250
what I'm seeing but I have that psychic

754
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:25,020
sense where I know what I'm looking at

755
00:38:28,370 --> 00:38:26,490
if not what I'm words really there

756
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:28,380
there's something else is [\h__\h]

757
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:31,050
towards me and I earn my instincts know

758
00:38:35,780 --> 00:38:33,210
that so I've seen if something looks

759
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:35,790
like Gandhi I've seen something that

760
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,370
looks like ants but they're only three

761
00:38:42,290 --> 00:38:40,560
or four feet tall and I've seen

762
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:42,300
something look like a plane aunt and a

763
00:38:49,790 --> 00:38:48,210
soldier ant very orange tall soldier

764
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:49,800
looking at you don't have the big heads

765
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:51,690
and the you know how they I don't know

766
00:38:57,350 --> 00:38:53,160
if people are gonna be sold your hands

767
00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:57,360
but or red shiny ceramic looking and I

768
00:39:01,850 --> 00:38:59,130
do know they're there they don't really

769
00:39:03,650 --> 00:39:01,860
look like that and I've season looking

770
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:03,660
at like hummingbirds

771
00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:06,720
you know I've seen for four or five four

772
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,240
two hummingbirds like with green

773
00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:11,280
feathers and big dark eyes but they look

774
00:39:15,799 --> 00:39:13,430
like how many words but they have arms

775
00:39:17,809 --> 00:39:15,809
you know it's like her everything looks

776
00:39:21,230 --> 00:39:17,819
like coke because i don't find i guess i

777
00:39:23,750 --> 00:39:21,240
can't there there there in it now i

778
00:39:27,289 --> 00:39:23,760
can't stand them now do you think

779
00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:27,299
there's any possibility that the babies

780
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:30,180
are your children are young adults which

781
00:39:36,260 --> 00:39:33,210
you perceive to be your child that you

782
00:39:40,819 --> 00:39:36,270
were seeing do you think that you were

783
00:39:44,779 --> 00:39:40,829
seeing the way they really looked that's

784
00:39:46,940 --> 00:39:44,789
her or were they presenting my year and

785
00:39:49,849 --> 00:39:46,950
will hear in my brain i'm trying to

786
00:39:53,029 --> 00:39:49,859
think of it like I think they look

787
00:39:54,529 --> 00:39:53,039
pretty normal to me you know but i don't

788
00:39:58,250 --> 00:39:54,539
think i could tolerate anything else

789
00:40:00,289 --> 00:39:58,260
really yeah i mean i'm wondering if they

790
00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:00,299
you know presented them to you in a way

791
00:40:10,099 --> 00:40:07,470
that you could handle uh yeah like I

792
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:10,109
guess it's easier to handle a four-foot

793
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:12,960
act even though you know like that one

794
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:15,569
commercial for whatever the insect spray

795
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,079
is and have an aunt my aunt door oh

796
00:40:23,690 --> 00:40:20,160
they're not to me they knocked at my

797
00:40:25,609 --> 00:40:23,700
door she ants are knocked at my door and

798
00:40:27,380 --> 00:40:25,619
I opened the door they were standing

799
00:40:30,049 --> 00:40:27,390
there they're so obviously in a costume

800
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:30,059
I let him in but then I saw something

801
00:40:36,559 --> 00:40:34,160
else out of the corner of my eye and I

802
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:36,569
got freaked out because there was

803
00:40:40,220 --> 00:40:38,010
something else going on in the room so

804
00:40:44,660 --> 00:40:40,230
you know saying and then it's like so

805
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:44,670
under it's just so odd that the teen

806
00:40:50,269 --> 00:40:48,450
hardships express that that's why this

807
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:50,279
whole thing is a I have to

808
00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:52,410
compartmentalize it i don't like live

809
00:40:56,210 --> 00:40:55,020
this whole story i said to say okay this

810
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:56,220
happens over here and then i have a

811
00:41:00,740 --> 00:40:57,930
regular life because how could you go on

812
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:00,750
with your life really if I happen today

813
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:02,670
you know I being abducted all the time I

814
00:41:07,460 --> 00:41:05,010
have all these children of space and how

815
00:41:10,609 --> 00:41:07,470
do you live with it you know so you

816
00:41:13,549 --> 00:41:10,619
can't really I don't somehow I've been

817
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:13,559
able to save myself and my spirituality

818
00:41:18,630 --> 00:41:16,960
has saved me too yeah I

819
00:41:21,530 --> 00:41:18,640
would imagine you know it would be tough

820
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:21,540
to sort of reconcile in your brain and

821
00:41:27,390 --> 00:41:24,910
emotionally if you had all this stuff

822
00:41:29,220 --> 00:41:27,400
going on and then you're expected to you

823
00:41:31,770 --> 00:41:29,230
know get up in the morning and go to

824
00:41:36,210 --> 00:41:31,780
work and and do your job and and all

825
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:36,220
that bill is asking the chat room if

826
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:39,450
you're if the children if you know

827
00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:43,690
haddem had a more rapid development or

828
00:41:50,339 --> 00:41:48,760
like am I going to be and I can't tell

829
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:50,349
you because I'm not you know standing

830
00:41:56,070 --> 00:41:53,530
watching it but it seems that they do

831
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:56,080
develop from embryo to baby pretty fast

832
00:42:01,859 --> 00:41:59,410
but then I've had had to so many years

833
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:01,869
and the kids are growing up you know

834
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:04,890
I've seen at various ages you know right

835
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:08,650
so they're developing but I can't say if

836
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:14,650
they're developing more quickly aight no

837
00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:17,170
I can't because but I have a sense that

838
00:42:23,250 --> 00:42:19,420
when when there was a lot of babies at

839
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:23,260
one time then they were developing a

840
00:42:28,530 --> 00:42:25,359
different time this feels like I've seen

841
00:42:31,859 --> 00:42:28,540
a bunch of babies at once hmm I seem to

842
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:31,869
think they're in tanks or something so I

843
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:34,530
can't be sure that one Oh interesting

844
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:39,849
yeah sky asks has a couple questions

845
00:42:50,910 --> 00:42:46,450
actually uh number one what is your

846
00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:50,920
blood type you know find that out there

847
00:42:54,570 --> 00:42:52,780
I don't know and I'm getting an awful

848
00:42:58,530 --> 00:42:54,580
lot of blood work for my house one of my

849
00:43:01,170 --> 00:42:58,540
doctors that yeah i don't know that i

850
00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:01,180
have a very glad i was going to say i

851
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:03,430
don't know if that's because you know

852
00:43:08,250 --> 00:43:05,050
because i really don't know about this

853
00:43:09,870 --> 00:43:08,260
weather it seems like people with a

854
00:43:14,099 --> 00:43:09,880
certain blood type have more of these

855
00:43:17,339 --> 00:43:14,109
types experiences I don't hate though ok

856
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:17,349
so in a room of lipstick very nice go to

857
00:43:23,070 --> 00:43:21,130
zero and I've been trying that group

858
00:43:25,890 --> 00:43:23,080
since it began and that's the close

859
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:25,900
encounter research organization yes yep

860
00:43:33,839 --> 00:43:30,640
and and I we asked and you said

861
00:43:35,579 --> 00:43:33,849
artists in this room how many people are

862
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:35,589
0 negative or whatever the rare blood

863
00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:37,510
type is and three-fourths of the people

864
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:40,420
I don't worry to have oh well i don't

865
00:43:45,259 --> 00:43:42,910
know then I found out guess what so is

866
00:43:49,890 --> 00:43:45,269
my best friend she never told me that

867
00:43:52,109 --> 00:43:49,900
huh I just found this out last year and

868
00:43:55,289 --> 00:43:52,119
she has a rare blood type the whole time

869
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:55,299
and I don't know what mine is I shot it

870
00:44:03,420 --> 00:43:58,890
I just got diagnosed with a very odd a

871
00:44:06,299 --> 00:44:03,430
condition of fibroid condition and next

872
00:44:11,069 --> 00:44:06,309
friday i'm going to the independent but

873
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:11,079
it's a rare condition that it's it's

874
00:44:17,759 --> 00:44:15,760
called a primary hyper sarah

875
00:44:20,099 --> 00:44:17,769
hyperthyroidism some like that but what

876
00:44:22,529 --> 00:44:20,109
it is you know it's a very painful

877
00:44:24,509 --> 00:44:22,539
disorder to take calcium any blood and

878
00:44:27,089 --> 00:44:24,519
out of your bones and puts in your blood

879
00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:27,099
so it's a very excruciating seeing I've

880
00:44:31,319 --> 00:44:29,260
had a very long time but I thought I had

881
00:44:34,410 --> 00:44:31,329
arthritis is on those this condition but

882
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:34,420
then I was looking it up and people that

883
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:37,630
exposed to radiation and Chernobyl had

884
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:40,450
this disease I thought I was thinking

885
00:44:44,749 --> 00:44:42,730
how on I did relate that back to being

886
00:44:50,269 --> 00:44:44,759
exposed to these beans and lifelong

887
00:44:55,470 --> 00:44:50,279
mm-hmm I can't tell my doctor that well

888
00:44:58,319 --> 00:44:55,480
that's really wild now when you were in

889
00:45:02,099 --> 00:44:58,329
the presence of these beings whether

890
00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:02,109
it's your children are you know the

891
00:45:07,109 --> 00:45:04,900
others that were around sky was

892
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:07,119
wondering whether they communicate with

893
00:45:12,539 --> 00:45:09,609
you telepathically how did they

894
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:12,549
communicate with you or did they oh yeah

895
00:45:21,029 --> 00:45:14,319
all of them do communicate

896
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:21,039
telepathically so then and um yeah it

897
00:45:29,849 --> 00:45:25,930
would be just so natural and a immediate

898
00:45:34,049 --> 00:45:29,859
that it's it's like I guess that is

899
00:45:37,259 --> 00:45:34,059
telepathy you know that I've never heard

900
00:45:38,730 --> 00:45:37,269
their voices are heard them talking you

901
00:45:40,410 --> 00:45:38,740
know I just know what they want and what

902
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:40,420
they're doing is sort of talking to you

903
00:45:44,010 --> 00:45:42,970
but not with I don't remember a boy so

904
00:45:51,690 --> 00:45:44,020
it's really

905
00:45:54,780 --> 00:45:51,700
that comes into your head it's not Leia

906
00:45:56,730 --> 00:45:54,790
you hear a voice in your head no I fight

907
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:56,740
the picture but I never really thought

908
00:46:01,160 --> 00:45:59,170
about that but no I haven't heard any

909
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:01,170
kind of voice I'll polish freak me out

910
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:04,810
hmm yeah I you know I would wonder what

911
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:08,110
it would sound like it you know I had

912
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:11,920
bringing my dog my mind I had a dog

913
00:46:16,830 --> 00:46:15,130
named Bella she passed away after 19

914
00:46:19,590 --> 00:46:16,840
years but I had a dog at a dream about

915
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:19,600
her that she ran up to me when I came

916
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:22,990
home one time and she said hi char she

917
00:46:32,070 --> 00:46:26,010
sounds just like Minnie Mouse oh my god

918
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:32,080
that would be so I don't want them

919
00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:34,720
talking to me so my dog sounds like

920
00:46:39,630 --> 00:46:37,720
Minnie now so I don't know to say about

921
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:39,640
that I guess you can only take a look

922
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:43,810
super stand yeah you know I know that

923
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:45,520
you've you know you've had these

924
00:46:52,410 --> 00:46:50,560
experiences and in a lot of times it

925
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:52,420
seems like with you and with other

926
00:47:00,450 --> 00:46:55,450
people these come during the night time

927
00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:00,460
when you're you know asleep a you know

928
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:03,190
that it do you feel like and this was a

929
00:47:10,410 --> 00:47:06,480
question from the chat room as well that

930
00:47:13,350 --> 00:47:10,420
they do that because you're sort of more

931
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:13,360
open at that time or you're easier to

932
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:16,930
control or rather than coming hey do it

933
00:47:21,810 --> 00:47:20,110
because they're sneaking around you know

934
00:47:23,610 --> 00:47:21,820
that you know that's why I don't

935
00:47:26,660 --> 00:47:23,620
appreciate what they're doing devillier

936
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:26,670
do it under dark and you know it's uh

937
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:29,530
you know it's like being molested ornate

938
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:32,050
out of your house or kidnapped or you

939
00:47:35,460 --> 00:47:33,910
know it's a lot of cloaking I don't

940
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:35,470
remember signing up for this I know

941
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:37,690
people say they signed on I don't feel

942
00:47:44,310 --> 00:47:41,110
like I did fine on and I've also seen

943
00:47:46,850 --> 00:47:44,320
humans I've seen military I've been

944
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:46,860
taking to underground military

945
00:47:54,990 --> 00:47:50,410
installations and one time I was in a

946
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:55,000
hostile underground one time and I saw

947
00:47:57,809 --> 00:47:56,770
dr. there and he was looking right at me

948
00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:57,819
and I know he was

949
00:48:01,229 --> 00:47:59,410
talking to aliens and people behind me I

950
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:01,239
was in hospital then I was trying to see

951
00:48:08,099 --> 00:48:04,209
his badge and he saw me looking his bag

952
00:48:11,069 --> 00:48:08,109
he said she's consuming and I was madder

953
00:48:13,469 --> 00:48:11,079
than hell at that traitor that flesh

954
00:48:16,170 --> 00:48:13,479
felt was this guy to military but their

955
00:48:19,739 --> 00:48:16,180
trade her to treat you know their fellow

956
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:19,749
humans this way and because of what you

957
00:48:24,989 --> 00:48:22,569
know I just just resented it he can he I

958
00:48:27,689 --> 00:48:24,999
was angry with them he sure she can't

959
00:48:30,299 --> 00:48:27,699
move you know I could hear them talk to

960
00:48:34,349 --> 00:48:30,309
you about me over me but I will get him

961
00:48:38,339 --> 00:48:34,359
I was enraged when the sky oh gosh

962
00:48:41,689 --> 00:48:38,349
that's yeah I can imagine you know I had

963
00:48:45,689 --> 00:48:41,699
never thought about that aspect because

964
00:48:47,759 --> 00:48:45,699
there was you know a lot of people do

965
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:47,769
report that they there's some sort of

966
00:48:52,529 --> 00:48:49,930
military connection and they remember

967
00:48:56,099 --> 00:48:52,539
being in a military setting around

968
00:49:00,209 --> 00:48:56,109
military people in uniform and that sort

969
00:49:01,650 --> 00:49:00,219
of thing and I've heard people say that

970
00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:01,660
that you know was kind of it was

971
00:49:08,849 --> 00:49:05,160
confusing and you know disturbing but I

972
00:49:11,219 --> 00:49:08,859
didn't think of that angle on it but it

973
00:49:14,579 --> 00:49:11,229
would be it's like hey you're supposed

974
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:14,589
to be helping me you know you and I are

975
00:49:20,219 --> 00:49:17,890
in the same team or we should be but you

976
00:49:23,219 --> 00:49:20,229
know there was not only things going on

977
00:49:24,779 --> 00:49:23,229
in your abduction experiences like you

978
00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:24,789
know some sort of military involvement

979
00:49:30,749 --> 00:49:28,150
in going into a craft and all that but

980
00:49:34,410 --> 00:49:30,759
you had things happening in your daily

981
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:34,420
life like a lot of military characters

982
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:36,160
buzzing your house and things like that

983
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:40,319
but the thing that sounded really weird

984
00:49:49,469 --> 00:49:44,650
to me was I know you said that you had

985
00:49:52,529 --> 00:49:49,479
some woman dressed in black that came to

986
00:49:56,849 --> 00:49:52,539
your door and that was a total waking

987
00:49:59,039 --> 00:49:56,859
experience right yes I remember me and

988
00:50:00,809 --> 00:49:59,049
my son at home and there's a knock at

989
00:50:04,849 --> 00:50:00,819
the door I opened the door and there's

990
00:50:08,309 --> 00:50:04,859
this woman in black he had a black

991
00:50:11,490 --> 00:50:08,319
outfit on like velvet and Hershey's were

992
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:11,500
velvet and

993
00:50:15,930 --> 00:50:13,450
she was perfect and she had her hair

994
00:50:19,230 --> 00:50:15,940
parted down the middle a long long red

995
00:50:21,630 --> 00:50:19,240
hair and I remember looking at she's so

996
00:50:23,310 --> 00:50:21,640
perfect I just was looking at her and I

997
00:50:25,710 --> 00:50:23,320
noticed like one hair without a place

998
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:25,720
that was it and then I looked at her

999
00:50:31,620 --> 00:50:28,690
shoes and I lived and I could that back

1000
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:31,630
gotta go upstairs and get a walk down a

1001
00:50:35,940 --> 00:50:34,090
little kind of us it was it's right down

1002
00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:35,950
its in hermosa beach right down near the

1003
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:37,390
beach and you'll be here the ocean at

1004
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:40,330
night so we're really close older and so

1005
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:42,370
she had a walk back and you can't see my

1006
00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:44,770
place from the front you just can't see

1007
00:50:50,010 --> 00:50:46,990
it it's high and there's too many bushes

1008
00:50:53,220 --> 00:50:50,020
so I know she had one grain of fan no

1009
00:50:56,190 --> 00:50:53,230
spot of leaf nothing on her that's why I

1010
00:51:01,290 --> 00:50:56,200
notice immediately and then she asked me

1011
00:51:03,660 --> 00:51:01,300
uh what does she say she said um do you

1012
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,670
know some folks he said some

1013
00:51:09,510 --> 00:51:04,960
off-the-wall name but I knew she was

1014
00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:09,520
lying and i said no i said how did you

1015
00:51:14,430 --> 00:51:11,590
see this house I don't know how did you

1016
00:51:16,020 --> 00:51:14,440
get here she said oh I was walking by

1017
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:16,030
said yeah but you can't see it from the

1018
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:18,160
street says well I kind of what the

1019
00:51:21,390 --> 00:51:20,050
steps and I said well what made you come

1020
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:21,400
back here she says will look like a

1021
00:51:29,190 --> 00:51:26,050
friendly little house okay and then she

1022
00:51:32,310 --> 00:51:29,200
says I need to ride to Santa Monica will

1023
00:51:33,570 --> 00:51:32,320
you take me and I knew that she'd just

1024
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:33,580
trying to take me away from my house

1025
00:51:38,610 --> 00:51:35,410
because a men in black woman a shelter

1026
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:38,620
go to earth at home but I went outta

1027
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:42,250
curiosity you are driving I actually

1028
00:51:50,010 --> 00:51:47,680
prefer my gosh I don't know it was his

1029
00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:50,020
memorizing and she looked like she

1030
00:51:56,420 --> 00:51:53,830
stepped out of the 60s or 70s really she

1031
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:56,430
didn't look like using this time or era

1032
00:52:02,640 --> 00:51:59,200
yeah I mean she was really a human but

1033
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:02,650
she looked just unusual why she stepped

1034
00:52:08,490 --> 00:52:05,110
out of somewhere else you know and the

1035
00:52:10,530 --> 00:52:08,500
shoes were those uh you know they have a

1036
00:52:12,090 --> 00:52:10,540
thick heel and rounded toes you're in

1037
00:52:14,670 --> 00:52:12,100
very windows or I know if hearing their

1038
00:52:17,010 --> 00:52:14,680
windows are in and they're velvet yeah

1039
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:17,020
that's okay yes she's dressed in the

1040
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:19,980
another long-sleeved kind of dress and

1041
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:24,370
but she was all in black and I can't

1042
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:24,910
remember

1043
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:30,130
but she looked she doesn't normal I knew

1044
00:52:34,830 --> 00:52:32,170
it and she wanted me way from the house

1045
00:52:37,170 --> 00:52:34,840
I knew that but I've had added I guess

1046
00:52:39,870 --> 00:52:37,180
just really curiosity and I couldn't

1047
00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:39,880
stand I actually took her to Santa

1048
00:52:44,460 --> 00:52:42,520
Monica and then she was drive we were

1049
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:44,470
driving along this wall and she said

1050
00:52:48,090 --> 00:52:45,610
just dropped me off here and there was

1051
00:52:50,430 --> 00:52:48,100
middle of nowhere I mean I really

1052
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:50,440
shouldn't even have stopped because it

1053
00:52:54,030 --> 00:52:51,910
would be like take her and drop her off

1054
00:52:55,980 --> 00:52:54,040
on the freeway it was really odd corner

1055
00:52:58,380 --> 00:52:55,990
just like a walk from the rest of the

1056
00:53:02,160 --> 00:52:58,390
way I so all I could take you right to

1057
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:02,170
the door you know and she said no she

1058
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:03,970
said just dropped me off here and go

1059
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:06,490
with it had to get out of there or crash

1060
00:53:12,810 --> 00:53:10,480
what did she talk about on the way how

1061
00:53:14,490 --> 00:53:12,820
long was the drive I don't remember it

1062
00:53:16,590 --> 00:53:14,500
was pretty from her most of the set

1063
00:53:19,350 --> 00:53:16,600
amount that's pretty quick 20 mil yahoo

1064
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:19,360
five minutes that's pretty quick because

1065
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:20,800
I you know I didn't take your free where

1066
00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:26,050
everything did you um feel like that you

1067
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:31,630
were kind of like almost induced to go

1068
00:53:37,940 --> 00:53:34,570
or like they were kind of hypnotized or

1069
00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:37,950
maybe maybe cuz she put her suggestion

1070
00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:42,160
but he your knife what I am you know me

1071
00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:44,800
but there's some kind of a suggestion

1072
00:53:49,590 --> 00:53:46,870
but I went along with it because it was

1073
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:49,600
too mesmerizing not to go I really

1074
00:53:53,310 --> 00:53:51,040
wanted to see what she was up to and

1075
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:53,320
irony she was on to something she may

1076
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:56,890
have known that I I knew but I wanted to

1077
00:54:01,470 --> 00:53:58,450
get more information out of her but she

1078
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:01,480
avoided anything that gave it's like

1079
00:54:06,020 --> 00:54:03,010
having a conversation with someone who

1080
00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:06,030
never gives you one piece of information

1081
00:54:11,070 --> 00:54:09,190
hmm I can we never really hear anything

1082
00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:11,080
from go talk but you're never going to

1083
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:12,880
understand you can understand what

1084
00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:14,290
they're saying but it doesn't mean

1085
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:16,870
anything did you get the impression that

1086
00:54:22,770 --> 00:54:19,510
she was trying to elicit information

1087
00:54:24,660 --> 00:54:22,780
from you know they already knew I knew

1088
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:24,670
she had people at my house going through

1089
00:54:29,010 --> 00:54:26,530
everything all my books and my dates and

1090
00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:29,020
videos and looking at everything I need

1091
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:30,670
I could seemed in my mind's eye with the

1092
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:33,910
or not so the men in black were actually

1093
00:54:37,110 --> 00:54:35,710
at my house going through everything I

1094
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:37,120
don't know what the purpose to that was

1095
00:54:42,839 --> 00:54:38,710
but

1096
00:54:46,470 --> 00:54:42,849
interesting when you got home did you

1097
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:46,480
find anything out of place or ya know

1098
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:49,089
you are no was like it was like weird

1099
00:54:52,109 --> 00:54:50,710
like the intercept some place he knew

1100
00:54:53,849 --> 00:54:52,119
people were just there and just gone

1101
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:53,859
that's the way it felt when I was back

1102
00:55:00,060 --> 00:54:56,290
back but I knew that they were going to

1103
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:00,070
do anything I don't know why but the

1104
00:55:05,339 --> 00:55:02,730
reason without is why I got ahold of

1105
00:55:06,930 --> 00:55:05,349
Yvonne I really thought I was going nuts

1106
00:55:09,450 --> 00:55:06,940
because of all these weird experiences

1107
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:09,460
in your talking either on a von Smith

1108
00:55:15,050 --> 00:55:11,710
it's Sarah who's a hypnotherapist their

1109
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:15,060
specialized good about alien abduction

1110
00:55:20,550 --> 00:55:18,670
experiences yeah yeah so this is what

1111
00:55:22,650 --> 00:55:20,560
happened as I actually thought I was

1112
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:22,660
going nuts and I wanted help I wanted a

1113
00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:25,210
great help so I roll there to harbor and

1114
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:28,660
I told them what I was doing but then we

1115
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:30,970
were really afraid of the military you

1116
00:55:34,410 --> 00:55:32,050
know because me my best friend we're

1117
00:55:36,329 --> 00:55:34,420
talking about we were scared you know so

1118
00:55:38,339 --> 00:55:36,339
I'm letting the letter go into the

1119
00:55:40,530 --> 00:55:38,349
mailbox I'm thinking oh my god would

1120
00:55:43,890 --> 00:55:40,540
have I done I was scared but then I got

1121
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:43,900
a letter from dr. Mac at Harbor John I

1122
00:55:51,180 --> 00:55:46,630
believe you yeah John Mack the rest is

1123
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:51,190
so anyway so he wrote me back he turned

1124
00:55:56,070 --> 00:55:52,720
me on to Yvonne so that's why I've been

1125
00:55:59,160 --> 00:55:56,080
going in a sense and highly tell anybody

1126
00:56:01,230 --> 00:55:59,170
this pit helping go to a group wherever

1127
00:56:02,910 --> 00:56:01,240
you are in the world you know find your

1128
00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:02,920
life minded people because you know the

1129
00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:05,920
people that that are drawn to get like

1130
00:56:10,710 --> 00:56:07,750
we're all drawing together to each other

1131
00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:10,720
oh I'm habia more myself and I'd ever

1132
00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:12,430
have in my whole life I'm having a

1133
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:15,070
really good time oh that's how I think

1134
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:17,440
dick with all this but I'm having a very

1135
00:56:24,030 --> 00:56:21,130
joyful life yeah if anyone is going

1136
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:24,040
through these types of experiences and

1137
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:27,760
would like to have some support or just

1138
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:30,010
camaraderie with other people going

1139
00:56:36,510 --> 00:56:32,410
through the same thing who understand

1140
00:56:38,940 --> 00:56:36,520
and maybe have managed to integrate it

1141
00:56:41,609 --> 00:56:38,950
more into their lives and deal with it a

1142
00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:41,619
little bit better I you know get a hold

1143
00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:44,230
of me or get a hold of char and we will

1144
00:56:49,650 --> 00:56:47,230
put you in touch with the sero group

1145
00:56:51,540 --> 00:56:49,660
here in Southern California and then

1146
00:56:52,590 --> 00:56:51,550
there are others around around the

1147
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:52,600
country so

1148
00:56:56,610 --> 00:56:54,490
if you're feeling like you're having

1149
00:56:59,070 --> 00:56:56,620
these experiences you you don't have to

1150
00:57:02,790 --> 00:56:59,080
be alone in it you can reach out to

1151
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:02,800
others and be happy to put you on track

1152
00:57:10,770 --> 00:57:06,880
to some of these groups and people if if

1153
00:57:12,990 --> 00:57:10,780
you send me your information or maybe

1154
00:57:15,780 --> 00:57:13,000
get hold of sharp you can see char on

1155
00:57:18,090 --> 00:57:15,790
facebook which you have a page for your

1156
00:57:21,270 --> 00:57:18,100
radio show which is called paranormal

1157
00:57:26,580 --> 00:57:21,280
and the sacred and parallel work record

1158
00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:26,590
yep and I think that you know you make

1159
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:28,750
everybody feel on there check it out and

1160
00:57:39,570 --> 00:57:33,760
see what char was doing on her radio

1161
00:57:42,570 --> 00:57:39,580
show now oh my goodness where believe it

1162
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:42,580
or not it's break time again and then

1163
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:44,170
we'd be down to the final half hour

1164
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,000
we're going to try to get some more

1165
00:57:50,660 --> 00:57:48,160
questions in from the chat room I tell

1166
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:50,670
you that I think this is the most active

1167
00:57:56,430 --> 00:57:54,640
with questions it has ever been so

1168
00:57:58,790 --> 00:57:56,440
people are really into the subject

1169
00:58:01,320 --> 00:57:58,800
matter and i hope i can scroll back and

1170
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:01,330
grab some of these questions while we're

1171
00:58:06,330 --> 00:58:03,610
on the break and so we don't don't miss

1172
00:58:07,470 --> 00:58:06,340
miss them if we can help it and if we do

1173
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:07,480
miss them and then we're just going to

1174
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:09,370
have to have you back on another time so

1175
00:58:13,260 --> 00:58:11,770
that's right yes and all of them your

1176
00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:13,270
question is because it's helping me

1177
00:58:19,740 --> 00:58:16,750
process you know cuz i'm a learning

1178
00:58:21,690 --> 00:58:19,750
growing person you know and i really

1179
00:58:24,300 --> 00:58:21,700
want to be a skeeze question so i can

1180
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:24,310
also process what's happening to me this

1181
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:26,530
is fall current also for it to be help

1182
00:58:32,820 --> 00:58:28,530
so I appreciate your question okay okay

1183
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:32,830
great well yeah it is helpful it's great

1184
00:58:36,990 --> 00:58:34,450
to know you know what people are

1185
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:37,000
thinking out there because sometimes you

1186
00:58:41,580 --> 00:58:39,490
know you can get some answers from what

1187
00:58:43,170 --> 00:58:41,590
their questions are you know and you see

1188
00:58:45,150 --> 00:58:43,180
what their line of thinking is and it

1189
00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:45,160
takes you on a different track it might

1190
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:48,160
give you some answers but I think it's

1191
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:50,890
that time again and time to take a break

1192
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:52,290
and

1193
00:58:57,860 --> 00:58:54,480
we're going to be back in just a few

1194
00:59:00,380 --> 00:58:57,870
minutes with char McCain and her story

1195
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:00,390
of ever wipe funk Aeolian abduction

1196
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:02,970
experiences in much much more we'll be

1197
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:17,040
right back hello everyone Laurieann

1198
00:59:22,820 --> 00:59:19,530
fenton here hosted the California MUFON

1199
00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:22,830
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1225
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1227
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1230
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1231
01:00:57,130 --> 01:00:54,529
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1232
01:00:59,949 --> 01:00:57,140
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1235
01:01:14,109 --> 01:01:07,069
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1236
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:46,660
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1237
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:49,490
and we're back thanks so much for

1238
01:01:55,250 --> 01:01:51,690
joining us tonight on night vision radio

1239
01:01:57,770 --> 01:01:55,260
we've had a really hot discussion going

1240
01:02:00,050 --> 01:01:57,780
on in the chat room and we'd love to

1241
01:02:02,660 --> 01:02:00,060
invite you there if you're listening but

1242
01:02:05,420 --> 01:02:02,670
not joining into the chat room tonight

1243
01:02:07,340 --> 01:02:05,430
and every and every Thursday night we

1244
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:07,350
have a great group of people in there

1245
01:02:12,950 --> 01:02:10,410
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1246
01:02:14,780 --> 01:02:12,960
MJ the producer dying we're just talking

1247
01:02:16,730 --> 01:02:14,790
about it on the break we said these guys

1248
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:16,740
are on it you know you can't be a slouch

1249
01:02:20,770 --> 01:02:18,930
around here because these guys will

1250
01:02:23,690 --> 01:02:20,780
catch you you know they know their stuff

1251
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:23,700
so join our chat room it's really

1252
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:25,770
interesting and you can find that at

1253
01:02:33,350 --> 01:02:30,210
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1254
01:02:39,350 --> 01:02:33,360
we are back and we're back with char

1255
01:02:40,940 --> 01:02:39,360
McCain char we wanted to first remind

1256
01:02:44,690 --> 01:02:40,950
people that they can find you on

1257
01:02:48,140 --> 01:02:44,700
facebook under your name and but and

1258
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:48,150
also your radio show which is called the

1259
01:02:53,690 --> 01:02:50,610
paranormal and sacred you got a facebook

1260
01:02:56,660 --> 01:02:53,700
page check that out she'll has news

1261
01:03:00,710 --> 01:02:56,670
about her show and other items of

1262
01:03:03,830 --> 01:03:00,720
interest and you know like her page too

1263
01:03:06,590 --> 01:03:03,840
because that helps us all out any how

1264
01:03:09,530 --> 01:03:06,600
well did you want to hit on anything

1265
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:09,540
during this last half hour shard that we

1266
01:03:16,370 --> 01:03:14,010
haven't gotten yeah I did see something

1267
01:03:18,740 --> 01:03:16,380
in cap somebody was you know getting on

1268
01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:18,750
a couple things that are really

1269
01:03:23,540 --> 01:03:20,910
interesting and talked about animals and

1270
01:03:26,090 --> 01:03:23,550
shapeshifters and stuff like that I saw

1271
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:26,100
a bandage and I was thinking that too

1272
01:03:30,740 --> 01:03:27,810
because I was thinking about what you

1273
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:30,750
were saying about the appearance you

1274
01:03:34,130 --> 01:03:32,250
knew they were looking different and it

1275
01:03:36,890 --> 01:03:34,140
reminded me of shapeshifters and it

1276
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:36,900
reminded me of you know a lot of the

1277
01:03:42,830 --> 01:03:39,570
story I grew up in Oklahoma you know in

1278
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:42,840
Native America and we had lots of

1279
01:03:50,290 --> 01:03:45,330
stories growing up about shapeshifters

1280
01:03:53,930 --> 01:03:50,300
and i was wondering too when i saw that

1281
01:03:56,780 --> 01:03:53,940
but what were your thoughts on that my

1282
01:03:57,339 --> 01:03:56,790
pop says I have a real cute ship with

1283
01:04:02,190 --> 01:03:57,349
four

1284
01:04:06,279 --> 01:04:02,200
animals and I've had some really a

1285
01:04:09,539 --> 01:04:06,289
spiritual experiences my animals lived

1286
01:04:12,309 --> 01:04:09,549
to be really old age my dog lived to be

1287
01:04:13,749 --> 01:04:12,319
19 but I think that she got into some

1288
01:04:15,749 --> 01:04:13,759
rat poison or something like that

1289
01:04:18,190 --> 01:04:15,759
because she really wasn't sick ever

1290
01:04:20,229 --> 01:04:18,200
until that last day of her life so I

1291
01:04:22,930 --> 01:04:20,239
think she actually got poison intent but

1292
01:04:25,029 --> 01:04:22,940
anyway I had a little Finch a zebra

1293
01:04:29,289 --> 01:04:25,039
finch tearful to live between six and

1294
01:04:31,719 --> 01:04:29,299
eight years in 316 and it took very odd

1295
01:04:33,660 --> 01:04:31,729
but i also have had birds come out of

1296
01:04:35,979 --> 01:04:33,670
the trees and land on my head and a

1297
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:35,989
berth that have been in accidents that

1298
01:04:41,469 --> 01:04:38,690
come to me and so they can't don't have

1299
01:04:43,749 --> 01:04:41,479
to die alone you know just very odd like

1300
01:04:47,999 --> 01:04:43,759
i can understand the bird language but

1301
01:04:52,410 --> 01:04:48,009
uh there's also again these things

1302
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:52,420
shapeshifters and I had a very odd

1303
01:05:01,959 --> 01:04:58,210
experience and one of my most current uh

1304
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:01,969
alien was a experience but the one I

1305
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:03,890
want to talk to you about is that I was

1306
01:05:09,249 --> 01:05:06,130
interviewing Linda glory now she's

1307
01:05:11,950 --> 01:05:09,259
really into pit physiology and she's

1308
01:05:15,549 --> 01:05:11,960
written many books 15 books she's

1309
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:15,559
fabulous on anything monsterous you know

1310
01:05:20,349 --> 01:05:18,170
so it could be anything but there was

1311
01:05:22,719 --> 01:05:20,359
something odd that happened to me I woke

1312
01:05:25,209 --> 01:05:22,729
up one night and so since I have all

1313
01:05:27,940 --> 01:05:25,219
this UFO phase going psychics just going

1314
01:05:30,130 --> 01:05:27,950
that some and then sometimes people come

1315
01:05:31,930 --> 01:05:30,140
to me before they passed tell me they're

1316
01:05:34,209 --> 01:05:31,940
going to deaf and after they pass like a

1317
01:05:38,140 --> 01:05:34,219
lot of odd different things going on

1318
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:38,150
this time I woke up and I was laying on

1319
01:05:42,670 --> 01:05:40,609
my side towards the hallway I have a

1320
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:42,680
real small place my dog was sitting

1321
01:05:46,569 --> 01:05:44,960
upright very alert at the end of the

1322
01:05:48,279 --> 01:05:46,579
edge of the bed where my feet work I

1323
01:05:51,549 --> 01:05:48,289
looked at the hall and there was a huge

1324
01:05:56,349 --> 01:05:51,559
for black wolf standing up I mean he was

1325
01:05:59,229 --> 01:05:56,359
so big he took up the whole ha long fur

1326
01:06:02,769 --> 01:05:59,239
like a main but he was big black shaggy

1327
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:02,779
wolf when I woke up that's because my

1328
01:06:11,290 --> 01:06:06,890
dog looked me up and I looked at him he

1329
01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:11,300
looked at her like you woke her up

1330
01:06:15,070 --> 01:06:13,310
and the only thing a good person is

1331
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:15,080
needs to be a doctor can do is just grab

1332
01:06:19,150 --> 01:06:16,370
your dog and hide under the blanket

1333
01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:19,160
that's what I did I grabbed her I put

1334
01:06:23,860 --> 01:06:22,160
put the blankets over us and I just hid

1335
01:06:26,110 --> 01:06:23,870
there waiting for I'm going to die

1336
01:06:28,180 --> 01:06:26,120
because the wolf of my house and we were

1337
01:06:31,780 --> 01:06:28,190
out and she never moved it I never moved

1338
01:06:33,670 --> 01:06:31,790
for like three hours we're just out so

1339
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:33,680
that happened a month ago a month before

1340
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:37,250
I live interview Linda Godfrey and then

1341
01:06:41,650 --> 01:06:39,770
I which is talking about these wolves

1342
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:41,660
and dog men of Michigan and stuff like

1343
01:06:47,790 --> 01:06:45,410
that I became aware i wait a minute I

1344
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:47,800
said divis wolf seem to be very

1345
01:06:52,660 --> 01:06:51,170
intelligent and they're kind of like I'm

1346
01:06:55,420 --> 01:06:52,670
the king of the world I could do

1347
01:06:57,310 --> 01:06:55,430
whatever I want you know and they have

1348
01:06:59,800 --> 01:06:57,320
intelligence and she said well yes

1349
01:07:01,990 --> 01:06:59,810
people are saying that these aren't men

1350
01:07:04,180 --> 01:07:02,000
they're turning into wolves or actually

1351
01:07:07,570 --> 01:07:04,190
wolves expand upright like men and

1352
01:07:09,310 --> 01:07:07,580
they're very smart and I was going back

1353
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:09,320
to the way that wolf was standing there

1354
01:07:13,900 --> 01:07:12,410
and I told her the story about the wool

1355
01:07:15,970 --> 01:07:13,910
so the first time I ever talked about

1356
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:15,980
said there was a wolf in my house he was

1357
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:18,530
she said she said I've heard this before

1358
01:07:22,870 --> 01:07:19,970
I went there's no way you would heard

1359
01:07:24,190 --> 01:07:22,880
this before she's yes they're showing up

1360
01:07:26,020 --> 01:07:24,200
in the middle of the afternoon in

1361
01:07:28,180 --> 01:07:26,030
people's houses like in the kitchen turn

1362
01:07:29,710 --> 01:07:28,190
right or wolf standing there she says

1363
01:07:33,250 --> 01:07:29,720
she doesn't know if this is an anomaly

1364
01:07:37,450 --> 01:07:33,260
of a time and space or whatever these

1365
01:07:41,410 --> 01:07:37,460
just visitors visiting hmm I don't you

1366
01:07:44,410 --> 01:07:41,420
think that's strange it is but it kind

1367
01:07:47,650 --> 01:07:44,420
of reminds me a bit of some of the

1368
01:07:50,410 --> 01:07:47,660
stories I heard coming out of when

1369
01:07:53,140 --> 01:07:50,420
what's commonly called a skinwalker

1370
01:07:56,170 --> 01:07:53,150
ranch out of Utah we used to call it

1371
01:07:59,440 --> 01:07:56,180
Sherman River fever Sherman ranch about

1372
01:08:01,920 --> 01:07:59,450
these sort of monster wolves these

1373
01:08:03,970 --> 01:08:01,930
gigantic wolves and they seem to be

1374
01:08:06,310 --> 01:08:03,980
possibly coming through an

1375
01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:06,320
interdimensional portal or something

1376
01:08:10,570 --> 01:08:08,000
like that and I have her guess we'll

1377
01:08:14,740 --> 01:08:10,580
stories and of course in Native American

1378
01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:14,750
culture there's a lot of wolf symbolism

1379
01:08:22,150 --> 01:08:16,400
and and wolf is kind of a you know

1380
01:08:25,060 --> 01:08:22,160
respected animal and you know a lot of

1381
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:25,070
people identify you know with an animal

1382
01:08:30,970 --> 01:08:28,210
and a lot of times it'll be the wolf and

1383
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:30,980
so there is something kind of special

1384
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:35,090
about wolves it seems yeah there is and

1385
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:37,730
I don't know what that meant but I also

1386
01:08:42,340 --> 01:08:40,400
know that he was just visiting I haven't

1387
01:08:45,480 --> 01:08:42,350
seen it again but it was weird that that

1388
01:08:48,220 --> 01:08:45,490
I would talk to somebody to actually

1389
01:08:50,530 --> 01:08:48,230
collaborate what I said I mean I can't

1390
01:08:53,230 --> 01:08:50,540
believe that she wouldn't just say

1391
01:08:56,050 --> 01:08:53,240
you're flat out nuts said no I've heard

1392
01:08:58,320 --> 01:08:56,060
the exact same story before she doesn't

1393
01:09:00,580 --> 01:08:58,330
but she said that it could be

1394
01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:00,590
interdimensional and I'm going to tell

1395
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:03,440
you another thing i want to tell you I

1396
01:09:07,420 --> 01:09:05,330
had a very odd thing happened to me one

1397
01:09:09,220 --> 01:09:07,430
time because things that were only

1398
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:09,230
happening at night are not happening

1399
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:11,600
during the day and I have to be going up

1400
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:13,370
to a place in North Hollywood and I

1401
01:09:17,890 --> 01:09:15,440
stopped in Starbucks and I wanted to go

1402
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:17,900
to the restaurant so I went to this

1403
01:09:24,790 --> 01:09:21,650
bathroom and when I went in also was for

1404
01:09:27,490 --> 01:09:24,800
the sink and like a mirrored hall that

1405
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,500
was it I went where the heck of the

1406
01:09:30,850 --> 01:09:29,120
bathroom I said we'll put like a disco

1407
01:09:34,750 --> 01:09:30,860
room in here you know I mean so I

1408
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:34,760
started to walk out and I turn around I

1409
01:09:42,220 --> 01:09:38,810
looked at it again I went ok I know

1410
01:09:44,020 --> 01:09:42,230
there's a room here so I understand I

1411
01:09:47,260 --> 01:09:44,030
swear to you I was just talking to the

1412
01:09:49,870 --> 01:09:47,270
air I said I'm gonna stand here and wait

1413
01:09:52,570 --> 01:09:49,880
key turned back and I crossed my arms I

1414
01:09:54,010 --> 01:09:52,580
stood there and waited and little by

1415
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:54,020
little like I was looking through a

1416
01:09:58,210 --> 01:09:56,570
two-way mirror the room appeared first

1417
01:10:00,250 --> 01:09:58,220
it was you know every Starbucks bathroom

1418
01:10:02,140 --> 01:10:00,260
looks the same you got a shelf on the

1419
01:10:03,900 --> 01:10:02,150
right the commodes on the left is

1420
01:10:06,100 --> 01:10:03,910
another little shelf there's a hand bar

1421
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:06,110
although they came back little by little

1422
01:10:13,780 --> 01:10:11,290
I went thank you and I energy it's crazy

1423
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:13,790
so I was thinking well maybe I walked

1424
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:15,650
into a place that used to be something

1425
01:10:19,390 --> 01:10:17,330
notices something else is actually

1426
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:19,400
showing or different like to mention or

1427
01:10:28,180 --> 01:10:21,770
something I don't understand what I just

1428
01:10:34,690 --> 01:10:28,190
told you to get her nap nod wow that is

1429
01:10:36,460 --> 01:10:34,700
really really strange now you seem to

1430
01:10:38,770 --> 01:10:36,470
you know you said that you have like

1431
01:10:40,990 --> 01:10:38,780
this affinity for animal

1432
01:10:43,419 --> 01:10:41,000
sir you know animals seem to be drawn to

1433
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:43,429
you and that sort of thing and I know

1434
01:10:49,660 --> 01:10:45,650
that you're psychic have you ever done

1435
01:10:52,209 --> 01:10:49,670
any work in that area with people's pets

1436
01:10:59,020 --> 01:10:52,219
as a pet psychic or an animal

1437
01:11:01,330 --> 01:10:59,030
communicator well usually no I haven't

1438
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:01,340
any fight that intentionally but animals

1439
01:11:08,290 --> 01:11:04,880
a little tell me stuff you know and it's

1440
01:11:10,810 --> 01:11:08,300
easily not good to like or whatever my

1441
01:11:12,819 --> 01:11:10,820
mother's house and as soon as I walked

1442
01:11:15,129 --> 01:11:12,829
in the birds chirp to me and I went oh

1443
01:11:17,229 --> 01:11:15,139
my god you're hungry what's wrong they

1444
01:11:19,149 --> 01:11:17,239
were starving and she had not fill up

1445
01:11:20,709 --> 01:11:19,159
the cups they were empty and she had a

1446
01:11:23,049 --> 01:11:20,719
whole can of birdseed sitting right next

1447
01:11:25,689 --> 01:11:23,059
door I thought it was like the saddest

1448
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:25,699
thing ever thoughts of mom why don't you

1449
01:11:30,490 --> 01:11:27,920
why don't you feed them [\h__\h] she's I

1450
01:11:32,830 --> 01:11:30,500
heard them to tell you these birds told

1451
01:11:35,770 --> 01:11:32,840
me if they were hungry it was almost

1452
01:11:39,279 --> 01:11:35,780
like a sad little little drill from a

1453
01:11:42,609 --> 01:11:39,289
little visible offensive and I told her

1454
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:42,619
they told me and I had a convert that

1455
01:11:46,810 --> 01:11:44,210
would send me dreams when he wanted his

1456
01:11:48,669 --> 01:11:46,820
water change he would tell me you know

1457
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:48,679
in a dream he send me like a cloudy

1458
01:11:53,260 --> 01:11:51,170
water dream I wake up store enough you

1459
01:11:58,359 --> 01:11:53,270
wanted his water Clarissa but you know

1460
01:12:00,339 --> 01:11:58,369
and I've had very strange thing like my

1461
01:12:02,350 --> 01:12:00,349
eye I didn't even know I was friends

1462
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:02,360
with his dog until it came to me I was

1463
01:12:08,589 --> 01:12:05,090
like driving a prospect and I had an

1464
01:12:12,339 --> 01:12:08,599
image of my daughter's child in my mind

1465
01:12:14,979 --> 01:12:12,349
and it was it was in trouble and it's

1466
01:12:17,799 --> 01:12:14,989
actually needed water so I called my

1467
01:12:19,899 --> 01:12:17,809
daughter I said your child needs water

1468
01:12:21,669 --> 01:12:19,909
go bring wash it just dropped off water

1469
01:12:24,069 --> 01:12:21,679
mom they're okay so they're not okay I'm

1470
01:12:26,830 --> 01:12:24,079
telling I begged your please go check on

1471
01:12:28,990 --> 01:12:26,840
your animals when she did the poor dog

1472
01:12:31,089 --> 01:12:29,000
had called into the house and it was out

1473
01:12:33,729 --> 01:12:31,099
of water they had they had accidentally

1474
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:33,739
was a very hot day of an eagle they've

1475
01:12:38,950 --> 01:12:36,050
accidentally knocked over the water bowl

1476
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:38,960
and so one died of exhaustion in the

1477
01:12:44,350 --> 01:12:42,530
house so they'll tell me I know I don't

1478
01:12:47,319 --> 01:12:44,360
know if they reach out to just something

1479
01:12:49,810 --> 01:12:47,329
that's listening or what's what stuff

1480
01:12:52,660 --> 01:12:49,820
like that so I haven't like gone for any

1481
01:12:54,010 --> 01:12:52,670
like random reason they usually come

1482
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:54,020
me for a different very different

1483
01:13:02,200 --> 01:12:59,600
purpose when you try to help well yeah

1484
01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:02,210
that's that's interesting now where do

1485
01:13:07,540 --> 01:13:04,400
you do you go from here I know you're

1486
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:07,550
still attending you know getting

1487
01:13:14,140 --> 01:13:10,130
together with people at Cerro and

1488
01:13:17,140 --> 01:13:14,150
probably outside of zero that are having

1489
01:13:19,330 --> 01:13:17,150
these same kind of experiences but I

1490
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:19,340
know that you you know you work you have

1491
01:13:26,590 --> 01:13:21,290
a job as a forensic counselor and you

1492
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:26,600
work very interestingly with federal

1493
01:13:32,979 --> 01:13:30,650
prisoners who are still in custody but

1494
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:32,989
transitioning back into the community

1495
01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:38,210
now right what do you do actually do and

1496
01:13:43,229 --> 01:13:40,400
do you feel like these kind of

1497
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:43,239
experiences and your psychic abilities

1498
01:13:52,950 --> 01:13:47,679
come into play at all with your work

1499
01:13:55,180 --> 01:13:52,960
yeah not the you know cuz a lot of

1500
01:13:56,890 --> 01:13:55,190
people you think it would be far out

1501
01:13:59,709 --> 01:13:56,900
nursing but they're pretty well

1502
01:14:03,010 --> 01:13:59,719
established in the way they think a lot

1503
01:14:04,660 --> 01:14:03,020
of people aren't open minded you know I

1504
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:04,670
mean they'll say you really believe in

1505
01:14:09,669 --> 01:14:07,370
UFO yeah right you know there's a very

1506
01:14:12,459 --> 01:14:09,679
scoff Famer and there every now and then

1507
01:14:14,380 --> 01:14:12,469
you get an enlightened soul that really

1508
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:14,390
need to talk about some things and then

1509
01:14:20,830 --> 01:14:16,850
they'll still talk about it and there's

1510
01:14:22,959 --> 01:14:20,840
a lot of haunted prison prisons so

1511
01:14:26,169 --> 01:14:22,969
they'll tell me stories about things

1512
01:14:30,939 --> 01:14:26,179
that have gone out in prisons and it's

1513
01:14:34,090 --> 01:14:30,949
very strange but have you run into

1514
01:14:37,450 --> 01:14:34,100
anybody who's abducted out of prison by

1515
01:14:41,290 --> 01:14:37,460
aliens they might well they might

1516
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:41,300
welcome that here yeah we're for people

1517
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:45,410
yeah yeah some he was somebody you know

1518
01:14:50,020 --> 01:14:48,080
I can't say whatever but they were being

1519
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:50,030
abducted out of the prison and then sent

1520
01:14:54,910 --> 01:14:53,090
back no you know it's something that you

1521
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:54,920
would never think of unless you're on

1522
01:14:57,970 --> 01:14:56,449
this topic we're talking right now

1523
01:15:01,450 --> 01:14:57,980
because there's something I've never

1524
01:15:03,729 --> 01:15:01,460
thought of sure yes yes that I don't

1525
01:15:06,310 --> 01:15:03,739
mean necessarily the subject coming up

1526
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:06,320
in your counseling sessions

1527
01:15:11,050 --> 01:15:08,449
what I was thinking is because of the

1528
01:15:14,140 --> 01:15:11,060
experiences that you've had the things

1529
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:14,150
that you've gone through it has to have

1530
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:17,449
changed who you are in in some way it

1531
01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:20,000
has to have added something you know to

1532
01:15:25,180 --> 01:15:23,510
your whole life experience and do you

1533
01:15:28,899 --> 01:15:25,190
feel that because of the things that

1534
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:28,909
you've been through that it helps you in

1535
01:15:34,959 --> 01:15:31,610
your work either with counseling

1536
01:15:39,580 --> 01:15:34,969
prisoners or you know helping someone

1537
01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:39,590
who's having bad experiences you know I

1538
01:15:46,780 --> 01:15:42,710
got getting ready for my next life which

1539
01:15:50,020 --> 01:15:46,790
will be more the same but no my done is

1540
01:15:52,780 --> 01:15:50,030
a I kind of compartmentalize everything

1541
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:52,790
and I've had the kids called me to have

1542
01:15:58,870 --> 01:15:56,570
a touch or a knowing or shine or you

1543
01:16:00,970 --> 01:15:58,880
know a lot of many many people have told

1544
01:16:05,140 --> 01:16:00,980
me that if I don't try to flip them with

1545
01:16:07,780 --> 01:16:05,150
what I know he's City que yo wat scare

1546
01:16:11,770 --> 01:16:07,790
people cuz people get scared well I know

1547
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:11,780
because I know anything more yeah so you

1548
01:16:17,979 --> 01:16:14,560
have any way I had it the first one I

1549
01:16:19,510 --> 01:16:17,989
hadn't really brought up you know but i

1550
01:16:25,089 --> 01:16:19,520
am going to touch on the subject a

1551
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:25,099
little bit i know that you were shown by

1552
01:16:33,370 --> 01:16:29,690
the ets some sort of end-of-the-world

1553
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:33,380
scenarios yeah and it's really

1554
01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:36,650
interesting because I you know I don't

1555
01:16:41,319 --> 01:16:38,710
know if you knew this I mean I know that

1556
01:16:42,729 --> 01:16:41,329
we talked about it earlier today and we

1557
01:16:45,330 --> 01:16:42,739
were trying to figure out if we'd ever

1558
01:16:49,450 --> 01:16:45,340
met long ago because I was involved with

1559
01:16:52,030 --> 01:16:49,460
zero at its inception and I was one of

1560
01:16:54,490 --> 01:16:52,040
the founders with Yvonne Smith at the

1561
01:16:56,649 --> 01:16:54,500
time and Yvonne has stuck it out and

1562
01:16:59,169 --> 01:16:56,659
carried it through and she's still

1563
01:17:03,910 --> 01:16:59,179
keeping it going and this was more years

1564
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:03,920
ago than I'd like to admit to but I

1565
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:08,210
remember at the time I had had this

1566
01:17:16,629 --> 01:17:12,050
lifelong dream which I always called my

1567
01:17:20,140 --> 01:17:16,639
end-of-the-world dream and in it I would

1568
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:20,150
be outdoors and I would look up

1569
01:17:26,290 --> 01:17:22,489
and suddenly the sky would just be full

1570
01:17:28,959 --> 01:17:26,300
of craft of UFOs like flying in

1571
01:17:33,310 --> 01:17:28,969
formation and different groups like just

1572
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:33,320
armada of UFOs coming and coming and so

1573
01:17:39,700 --> 01:17:36,290
just sort of as an experiment when

1574
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:39,710
anyone would show up at zero I would

1575
01:17:46,380 --> 01:17:42,770
just ask them do you have an

1576
01:17:50,770 --> 01:17:46,390
end-of-the-world dream and it was

1577
01:17:54,700 --> 01:17:50,780
uncanny how many people almost every

1578
01:17:56,890 --> 01:17:54,710
person said yeah it's like UFOs coming

1579
01:17:59,290 --> 01:17:56,900
and coming and I couldn't figure out

1580
01:18:01,270 --> 01:17:59,300
okay is this the end of the world or is

1581
01:18:05,820 --> 01:18:01,280
this the end of the world and everything

1582
01:18:09,340 --> 01:18:05,830
that as we know it so can you tell me

1583
01:18:11,740 --> 01:18:09,350
what the scenario was or some of the

1584
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:11,750
scenarios and you don't have to go into

1585
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:15,770
huge detail you know whatever you're

1586
01:18:20,530 --> 01:18:18,110
comfortable with telling but did it have

1587
01:18:25,419 --> 01:18:20,540
anything to do with like tons and tons

1588
01:18:28,060 --> 01:18:25,429
of spaceships I have gym today in terms

1589
01:18:29,979 --> 01:18:28,070
of all of them coming through but kind

1590
01:18:32,979 --> 01:18:29,989
of men assisting from the clouds that

1591
01:18:35,470 --> 01:18:32,989
there'd be we will be watching you know

1592
01:18:36,970 --> 01:18:35,480
there's so there be first you don't seem

1593
01:18:39,939 --> 01:18:36,980
and then all the sudden there there and

1594
01:18:42,700 --> 01:18:39,949
there would be hundreds of the same time

1595
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:42,710
but it's usually when a lot of people

1596
01:18:46,689 --> 01:18:44,570
are out on the lawn looking almost like

1597
01:18:49,060 --> 01:18:46,699
they're gathered for like a fourth of

1598
01:18:51,430 --> 01:18:49,070
July and I've had many many dreams of

1599
01:18:56,110 --> 01:18:51,440
them coming on the ocean or coming on

1600
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:56,120
the shore and also that that connects

1601
01:19:02,290 --> 01:18:58,640
with the end-of-the-world scenario but

1602
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:02,300
what my vision of it is say did you show

1603
01:19:07,930 --> 01:19:05,050
me everything going up some flames but

1604
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:07,940
I've also been shown how we're supposed

1605
01:19:12,729 --> 01:19:09,770
to acts at the end of the world and

1606
01:19:15,790 --> 01:19:12,739
we're not supposed to you know act on

1607
01:19:18,729 --> 01:19:15,800
our own behalf of so to help others you

1608
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:18,739
know the end of the world is not for us

1609
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:21,290
personally and assert that way it's for

1610
01:19:24,820 --> 01:19:23,600
your neighbor so if they need help go

1611
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:24,830
help them that's what's going to help

1612
01:19:30,250 --> 01:19:27,530
you not gathering more stuff not

1613
01:19:32,919 --> 01:19:30,260
hoarding more stuff right what's going

1614
01:19:33,700 --> 01:19:32,929
to help you any yeah don't hoard because

1615
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:33,710
with

1616
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:36,410
guy save you the saving now that's going

1617
01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:38,090
to help you tear your fear is going to

1618
01:19:42,010 --> 01:19:39,110
be the worst thing that you have to

1619
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:42,020
combat is the fear and horror you know

1620
01:19:47,110 --> 01:19:45,440
that a thing for over and I don't think

1621
01:19:49,390 --> 01:19:47,120
it's going to happen in our lifetime I

1622
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:49,400
know people think it's any of the world

1623
01:19:53,620 --> 01:19:51,170
coming up but i don't think so i don't

1624
01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:53,630
get what I have dreamt it did happen in

1625
01:19:59,620 --> 01:19:56,510
my lifetime but I don't really think it

1626
01:20:02,410 --> 01:19:59,630
is going to happen that's just me you

1627
01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:02,420
know i think i think that like a couple

1628
01:20:08,290 --> 01:20:05,450
days ago i'm really upset about what's

1629
01:20:10,390 --> 01:20:08,300
going on in the Middle Eastern with that

1630
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:10,400
burning of that man all that I went to

1631
01:20:14,650 --> 01:20:12,770
me I went that is that's the end of them

1632
01:20:17,410 --> 01:20:14,660
when they burnt that guy like that

1633
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:17,420
because they're just trying to horrify

1634
01:20:20,770 --> 01:20:18,770
us more and more and they're just

1635
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:20,780
thinking of ways of amusing themselves a

1636
01:20:24,729 --> 01:20:22,250
horrifying the world I thought that's

1637
01:20:27,550 --> 01:20:24,739
the end of them and i'm pretty sure it's

1638
01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:27,560
going to be over soon and very soon you

1639
01:20:33,610 --> 01:20:28,880
know I've been thinking that for three

1640
01:20:36,060 --> 01:20:33,620
days so you know help them true it is

1641
01:20:39,340 --> 01:20:36,070
there going to be in the caps because

1642
01:20:44,110 --> 01:20:39,350
you can't tolerate this stuff for so

1643
01:20:47,140 --> 01:20:44,120
long ago take them all out it really you

1644
01:20:51,250 --> 01:20:47,150
know it boggles the imagination and

1645
01:20:53,650 --> 01:20:51,260
bottles the mind to wonder now you see a

1646
01:20:56,410 --> 01:20:53,660
lot of or you hear a lot of stories

1647
01:20:59,830 --> 01:20:56,420
about young people you know becoming

1648
01:21:02,830 --> 01:20:59,840
radicalized and heading you know for

1649
01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:02,840
Syria or heading somewhere to join up

1650
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:06,430
with you know Isis the Islamic state and

1651
01:21:12,370 --> 01:21:09,410
you think you know why would that

1652
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:12,380
possibly be attractive to anyone you

1653
01:21:18,130 --> 01:21:15,130
know making I'm not even going to

1654
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:18,140
dignify what they do with repeating

1655
01:21:22,900 --> 01:21:20,570
exactly what they've done to people we

1656
01:21:26,620 --> 01:21:22,910
all know about it it's horrible and

1657
01:21:28,810 --> 01:21:26,630
horrifying and they do it in a such a

1658
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:28,820
public way they videotape it and they

1659
01:21:35,050 --> 01:21:31,370
put it on the internet and you know some

1660
01:21:37,750 --> 01:21:35,060
news stations show it and it's like why

1661
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:37,760
would that be attractive to young people

1662
01:21:43,060 --> 01:21:40,880
you know I just don't I don't know it

1663
01:21:45,310 --> 01:21:43,070
would seem to me like off destructive

1664
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:45,320
and but they're like a very bad

1665
01:21:50,140 --> 01:21:47,690
two-year-old happened

1666
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:50,150
doing with guns I just want to take if

1667
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:52,719
I'm visible you're all going invisible I

1668
01:22:01,180 --> 01:21:56,449
had very many odd experiences and one

1669
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:01,190
time I unfortunately was hitchhiking so

1670
01:22:07,930 --> 01:22:03,170
you know this had to be the 70s outfit

1671
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:07,940
shaking and I as soon as I put my hand

1672
01:22:12,729 --> 01:22:10,010
on the door his car I remember the white

1673
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:12,739
keyboard I knew I was in trouble I don't

1674
01:22:19,990 --> 01:22:17,170
know why I just didn't run then but uh I

1675
01:22:22,540 --> 01:22:20,000
got in a car anyway even though I knew

1676
01:22:23,830 --> 01:22:22,550
it was bad but I over that's what I'm

1677
01:22:25,750 --> 01:22:23,840
telling people listen to your sixth

1678
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:25,760
sense do not override it I don't

1679
01:22:29,890 --> 01:22:28,489
overwrite it anymore I used to override

1680
01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:29,900
it when I was you know because no no

1681
01:22:35,470 --> 01:22:32,320
people aren't like that oh yes they are

1682
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:35,480
so these guys took me they're going to

1683
01:22:41,050 --> 01:22:38,090
they're going to possibly rape and kill

1684
01:22:43,180 --> 01:22:41,060
me know it guess I can try rate me but I

1685
01:22:45,250 --> 01:22:43,190
summer I started praying to God and I my

1686
01:22:48,970 --> 01:22:45,260
life flashed before my eyes now I was

1687
01:22:52,209 --> 01:22:48,980
praying that god help me God help me out

1688
01:22:54,610 --> 01:22:52,219
of this and thought get help me out of

1689
01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:54,620
it so some reason some magic started

1690
01:23:00,790 --> 01:22:58,130
happening and this one guard took pity

1691
01:23:03,910 --> 01:23:00,800
on me not both of them but the one had

1692
01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:03,920
seemed to have power or the other one so

1693
01:23:11,170 --> 01:23:07,520
they stop they were doing let me go but

1694
01:23:12,700 --> 01:23:11,180
I asked them why I was really scared but

1695
01:23:17,170 --> 01:23:12,710
look like they really working let me go

1696
01:23:19,630 --> 01:23:17,180
so they're driving me around and I asked

1697
01:23:22,450 --> 01:23:19,640
him why and they said because nobody

1698
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:22,460
cares about us and we don't care about

1699
01:23:30,100 --> 01:23:28,730
you just that simple hmm so nobody cares

1700
01:23:32,110 --> 01:23:30,110
about those young men and they don't

1701
01:23:35,470 --> 01:23:32,120
care about anybody so you will feel my

1702
01:23:38,830 --> 01:23:35,480
pain yeah I'm saying so there is this

1703
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:38,840
sick this they're sick at heart yeah

1704
01:23:43,390 --> 01:23:41,360
it's very sad very sad I don't know how

1705
01:23:48,790 --> 01:23:43,400
we got onto this from alien abduction

1706
01:23:51,610 --> 01:23:48,800
but now for win the world yeah when do

1707
01:23:53,770 --> 01:23:51,620
you uh you say you don't see this

1708
01:23:55,930 --> 01:23:53,780
happening in our lifetime I mean a lot

1709
01:23:59,590 --> 01:23:55,940
of people say that it will I mean of

1710
01:24:01,150 --> 01:23:59,600
course we had the you know the 2012

1711
01:24:01,540 --> 01:24:01,160
thing where everybody thought the world

1712
01:24:05,399 --> 01:24:01,550
was

1713
01:24:07,510 --> 01:24:05,409
and at the end of the Mayan calendar and

1714
01:24:09,959 --> 01:24:07,520
you know and we've had this happen

1715
01:24:13,209 --> 01:24:09,969
before in other even in other centuries

1716
01:24:16,180 --> 01:24:13,219
that you know there's always been sort

1717
01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:16,190
of doomsday cults and you know doomsday

1718
01:24:22,089 --> 01:24:19,040
prophets and everyone thinks it's going

1719
01:24:24,819 --> 01:24:22,099
to happen in their lifetime but you

1720
01:24:27,549 --> 01:24:24,829
don't see that as a psycho you know I

1721
01:24:29,709 --> 01:24:27,559
think our wolves going to end you know

1722
01:24:32,020 --> 01:24:29,719
one person except bring this up i

1723
01:24:33,609 --> 01:24:32,030
finally said old woman I said you're

1724
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:33,619
gonna die that's the end of your world

1725
01:24:40,180 --> 01:24:37,130
we don't want to go with you we have to

1726
01:24:41,260 --> 01:24:40,190
all go the same time Jeremy so I don't

1727
01:24:43,020 --> 01:24:41,270
know why they want to die and take

1728
01:24:46,870 --> 01:24:43,030
everybody with though I'm not going to

1729
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:46,880
so we all do have are in here you know

1730
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:48,530
because we live out our span and then

1731
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:52,730
we're going you know but you know in

1732
01:24:58,569 --> 01:24:55,489
this morning that that may be at the

1733
01:25:00,310 --> 01:24:58,579
heart of people feeling like the world's

1734
01:25:02,620 --> 01:25:00,320
going to end in my life lifetime is

1735
01:25:05,020 --> 01:25:02,630
because you know we are kind of

1736
01:25:06,819 --> 01:25:05,030
egotistical beings and we probably just

1737
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:06,829
can't imagine the world going on without

1738
01:25:14,530 --> 01:25:10,130
us when we're gone the world you know I

1739
01:25:16,540 --> 01:25:14,540
don't know people they have you know

1740
01:25:17,890 --> 01:25:16,550
this whole little following and then

1741
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:17,900
they're all going to go like lemmings

1742
01:25:22,810 --> 01:25:19,690
over there a thing together going to die

1743
01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:22,820
we always going to die you know I'm it's

1744
01:25:29,049 --> 01:25:25,250
a real our soul will live on you know

1745
01:25:30,580 --> 01:25:29,059
that too yeah you know I did have an

1746
01:25:32,500 --> 01:25:30,590
experience that it was the end of my

1747
01:25:34,990 --> 01:25:32,510
life I had the dream both of us but a

1748
01:25:36,819 --> 01:25:35,000
month ago and that's her and there was

1749
01:25:38,799 --> 01:25:36,829
at the end and then I was going down

1750
01:25:41,589 --> 01:25:38,809
this path and it was just like a plain

1751
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:41,599
hallway and I was tired and there was a

1752
01:25:45,370 --> 01:25:43,760
guide there he was saying come on let's

1753
01:25:47,379 --> 01:25:45,380
go just a little further and I wouldn't

1754
01:25:49,780 --> 01:25:47,389
you know I'm really tired and I was in

1755
01:25:52,330 --> 01:25:49,790
pain everything it's the first time I

1756
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:52,340
dream that I was really expressing the

1757
01:25:58,899 --> 01:25:56,090
pain that I felt and then he could just

1758
01:26:00,640 --> 01:25:58,909
a little further and I said okay so I

1759
01:26:04,990 --> 01:26:00,650
kept going if I went around this corner

1760
01:26:06,399 --> 01:26:05,000
and there was heaven so this guide he

1761
01:26:08,740 --> 01:26:06,409
looked like a tour guide he could have

1762
01:26:10,750 --> 01:26:08,750
been as you guys he look like he not

1763
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:10,760
look like a big angel that I was

1764
01:26:14,589 --> 01:26:12,650
expecting he actually looked like you

1765
01:26:15,490 --> 01:26:14,599
know I guy in khakis you told me which

1766
01:26:18,490 --> 01:26:15,500
way to go

1767
01:26:21,700 --> 01:26:18,500
and nature i looked at me he said soon

1768
01:26:23,470 --> 01:26:21,710
but not now so then I realized I asking

1769
01:26:25,780 --> 01:26:23,480
I'm sick yeah I went to the doc can find

1770
01:26:29,140 --> 01:26:25,790
out that I'm sick that's how it that's

1771
01:26:31,390 --> 01:26:29,150
how I found out did you know google

1772
01:26:33,220 --> 01:26:31,400
really curious to take it out so i'll

1773
01:26:36,490 --> 01:26:33,230
have to have that that terrorists

1774
01:26:40,210 --> 01:26:36,500
already taken out I'll field ever you

1775
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:40,220
know but when Thomas curious so I think

1776
01:26:44,230 --> 01:26:42,410
I was I'm a little bit in the other side

1777
01:26:49,540 --> 01:26:44,240
for some reason right now that i'm sick

1778
01:26:51,460 --> 01:26:49,550
a lot of a little experiences yeah well

1779
01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:51,470
we wish you all the best with that of

1780
01:26:55,930 --> 01:26:53,450
course you know with your health I can

1781
01:27:00,570 --> 01:26:55,940
relate to those thyroid issues I've

1782
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:00,580
dealt with those in the past but anyhow

1783
01:27:06,610 --> 01:27:04,130
gosh we're down to like the final minute

1784
01:27:08,440 --> 01:27:06,620
of the show if you can believe that and

1785
01:27:10,990 --> 01:27:08,450
you've been such a wonderful guest and

1786
01:27:13,810 --> 01:27:11,000
thank you so much for being kind enough

1787
01:27:15,730 --> 01:27:13,820
to answer all the questions that we've

1788
01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:15,740
all been throwing at you tonight I tell

1789
01:27:20,380 --> 01:27:17,120
you I did not host the show alone

1790
01:27:22,990 --> 01:27:20,390
tonight we had a lot of help from the

1791
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:23,000
chat room and I really appreciate it

1792
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:27,170
they are always great so I hope you guys

1793
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:29,210
if you're out there listening and you

1794
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:31,610
didn't join us in the chat room I hope

1795
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:33,170
you will next week we'll have another

1796
01:27:37,780 --> 01:27:35,330
great show planned for you but for

1797
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:37,790
tonight it looks like we're just about

1798
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:42,410
done and I want to thank Charlene McCain

1799
01:27:51,570 --> 01:27:48,050
for sharing with us hurt her amazing and

1800
01:27:54,940 --> 01:27:51,580
very you know disturbing at times

1801
01:27:59,620 --> 01:27:54,950
experiences and also want to remind you

1802
01:28:02,650 --> 01:27:59,630
that Charlene has her own radio show

1803
01:28:05,410 --> 01:28:02,660
called the paranormal and the sacred and

1804
01:28:07,900 --> 01:28:05,420
you can find that on facebook so go over

1805
01:28:11,950 --> 01:28:07,910
there and you'll find out how to get the

1806
01:28:15,900 --> 01:28:11,960
show and you can also see what

1807
01:28:19,330 --> 01:28:15,910
char is up to what she's getting into

1808
01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:19,340
currently so I really thank you short

1809
01:28:25,630 --> 01:28:24,110
and I hope that you will come again we

1810
01:28:28,030 --> 01:28:25,640
will thank you very much gravity be

1811
01:28:30,340 --> 01:28:28,040
honest and really special I can't

1812
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:30,350
appreciate it very much and it's good to

1813
01:28:35,170 --> 01:28:32,570
talk about this stuff other than just

1814
01:28:39,430 --> 01:28:35,180
holding it in you know sister it's quite

1815
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:39,440
amazing journey are you oh it sounds

1816
01:28:44,440 --> 01:28:43,010
incredible so you know thanks a lot for

1817
01:28:46,060 --> 01:28:44,450
sharing it with us I know a lot of

1818
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:46,070
people don't like to go public with a

1819
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:50,690
lot of their personal experiences but I

1820
01:28:56,470 --> 01:28:53,890
appreciate it appreciate you doing that

1821
01:29:00,910 --> 01:28:56,480
thank you dream on hope you will agree

1822
01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:00,920
to come back at some point any time okay

1823
01:29:04,660 --> 01:29:02,719
great well thanks a lot you want to

1824
01:29:07,420 --> 01:29:04,670
thank everybody for listening join us

1825
01:29:10,420 --> 01:29:07,430
next week right here at seven-thirty